Improved printing and removal of the clipboard in Chrome - Reckon Accounts Hosted

RavRav Administrator Posts: 10,871 Administrator
edited July 15 in Accounts Hosted
** THIS UPGRADE HAS BEEN ROLLED BACK FOR AU HOSTED USERS - MORE INFO HERE - Rollback for Reckon Accounts Hosted (Australia) ** 




Hi everyone,

We're very happy to let you know of two new enhancements available in Reckon Accounts Hosted to help you work more efficiently.

IMPROVED PRINTING
We have reduced the number of clicks required for you to print your documents including purchase orders, reports, payslips, invoices and more. This means you can now print faster.

REMOVAL OF THE CLIPBOARD IN CHROME ON PC
You can now copy and paste directly in Chrome (on PC) without using the clipboard. You can also use Ctrl+C (for copy) and Ctrl+V (for paste) on your keyboard to copy and paste info.

The new enhancements will be rolled out to on Wednesday, 17 January 2018.

We are always working to make Accounts Hosted more efficient for you and we hope these enhancements will help improve your processes.
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  • John GraetzJohn Graetz Member Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭
    edited July 15
    Brilliant news Rav.  I will be waiting to see the effects and thank everybody at Reckon for the work that has gone into making the very beneficial and needed change.
    John L G
  • PamPam Member Posts: 37
    edited January 2018
    Thankyou that is awesome news from my perspective. 

  • Jean RodeJean Rode Member Posts: 2
    edited July 15
    Excuse my naivety, how can I save Invoices etc in PDF (to my computer) now that the option isn't available when you press print any more? 
  • John GraetzJohn Graetz Member Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Hi Jean.  Perhaps you are jumping the gun as the announcement did say that this will only be rolled out on Wednesday 17/1/2018.  I do note however, that you are correct in that at present the view step defaults to the local printer and that neither of the Reckon PDF printers work.  In the meantime, I suggest that you use Internet Explorer 11 as it works perfectly there.  Then hold your breath and hope that everything works ok on Wednesday.  An alternative is to print to your own PDF printer program if you have one.
    John L G
  • RavRav Administrator Posts: 10,871 Administrator
    edited July 15
    Hi everyone,
    We're currently in the process of rolling out these enhancements as we speak and will be live shortly.

    For more information on today's update, please click here - January 2018 Major Update to Reckon Accounts Hosted
  • Tamara WhiteTamara White Member Posts: 10
    edited January 2018

    Happy to see these changes finally happening :-)

    I would be interested to know when an upgrade might be happening that makes it possible to export more than 256 columns into an Excel spreadsheet, there are reports I have never been able to export due to their size in 10 years of using Reckon Accounts, yet Excel has overcome this limitation back in 2007!

  • LaurenLauren Member Posts: 3
    edited January 2018
    To print an invoice/statement etc and also save it as a pdf it will now take me twice as long as I have to do the process twice and change settings each time. Is there a way to do this in one, or have the option to have the preview window back?
    Will I also have to change my print settings back to A4 from letter each day for every template?
  • Vanessa LanderVanessa Lander Member Posts: 29
    edited January 2018
    thanks, now i have to re-do all my set ups as it has changed all layouts - just don't have time for this. YES thank you for reducing how many clicks it takes to print but i liked that it popped up in another page so just in case i was Interrupted i could always go back now its going to take longer as you have to stop printing and then hit the print button again   
  • Mathew StephensonMathew Stephenson Member Posts: 3
    edited July 15
    All of our templates have had margins changed and are now cutting off sections previously we had no issues.
  • MartinRMartinR Member Posts: 5
    edited January 2018

    Hi Rav

    If you click through the announcement and then open the PDF with more details about the page there is a link in the PDF for users of IE.  This link does not work in the PDF.  You need to re-print the PDF and add in the hyperlink.

    Can you please post a direct link to the "IE Knowledge Browser article related to printing on the new Environment?"

    Cheers

    Martin

  • RavRav Administrator Posts: 10,871 Administrator
    edited January 2018
    Thanks for the heads up Martin,

    Just tried but worked ok for me so a bit strange. I'll keep an eye on that but in any case, here's the KB article -

    Unable to Print using Internet Explorer in Reckon Accounts Hosted, since latest update (Jan 2018)

    Before trying the steps listed in the KB, please test if your printing does already work in Internet Explorer after the update.

    Cheers
    Rav
  • Vanessa LanderVanessa Lander Member Posts: 29
    edited January 2018
    Hi Rav, seeing you are doing all these changes with printing and now is taking twice as long to print and save invoices and quotation by pressing the buttons twice can you add a SAVE button next to the print button?
  • Mathew StephensonMathew Stephenson Member Posts: 3
    edited January 2018
    Great upgrade.... love redoing all my templates and spending hours messing with printing settings to try and get a usable invoice...

  • John GraetzJohn Graetz Member Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2018

    Matthew.  Great upgrade indeed, more appropriately described as an unmitigated disaster.  We have gone one step forward and 12 - 15 years backwards to the time when all upgrades required customised templates to be re-done.  The problem now is that Reckon has elected to increase the margin at the top of forms by at least 15mm, thereby totally throwing everything out of whack at the bottom of customised forms.  Now we have this great white unusable space at the top of forms, causing the bottom 15mm to go off the page.

    RAV, what is the fix for this?  We need this fixed pronto please.

    How come Reckon has not bothered to test this out beforehand or used some users as testers, before releasing what can only be described as a total mess?

    John L G

  • RavRav Administrator Posts: 10,871 Administrator
    edited January 2018
    I think its a tad dramatic in labeling this update a disaster or mess John.

    This update was indeed thoroughly? tested internally prior to its release, by Partners before wider release and also immediately before and after rollout yesterday. Realistically, there is always the possibility that something goes awry despite our best efforts and intentions and evidently, it looks as though some users are experiencing issues with altered templates.

    The team are already investigating this and I'll let you know when I have further information. They believe it could related to altered paper size settings so if your print settings state 'Letter', change it back to A4 and confirm if there is any change.
  • Mathew StephensonMathew Stephenson Member Posts: 3
    edited January 2018
    Rav, I tried altering paper size and it does make a difference, however, the templates are still out of scale and some sections were still being cut off. The print preview shows correctly with scale and nothing cut off but when you go to the print page it shows and prints incorrectly. I had to manual alter our templates and print settings to get it almost back to where it was.?
  • John GraetzJohn Graetz Member Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2018

    Rav. In response to your reply.  Perhaps I might have been a tad dramatic, so I will apologise for that.  Why?  Because I have found my own fix, by accident, which as alluded to by somebody else, requires one to amend the options for the Reckon Printer to change the page size from Letter to A4.  When I do that, the invoice prints perfectly to my printer, and if I go to the Layout Designer in the Template, no longer does it regard the template as having to be on Letter size, but it now treats it correctly as being A4 size and does not move the "overflow" fields to the top of the page..  Without further testing, I would suggest that this change to the Printer Options, will allow all previous templates to behave correctly.

    However, I now have another problem, as somebody else has pointed out.  There is now no apparent option available as to where to direct the print job to and so it goes off to what was probably the default printer on my computer, at the start of the day.  I want to send the print job to my own PDF program but there is no option to select another printer anymore.  Even if I change my default printer to my own PDF program, the print job still gets sent the main printer in the office.  What is the workaround for that issue please?

    John L G

  • LeanneLeanne Member Posts: 4
    edited January 2018

    With the printing problems I've been experiencing this arvo and fighting with online support, I had a massive chuckle when I looked up at my Tab and saw Reckon Icon and next to that, it says ip.

    Put it together and it says RIP Reckon Accounts Hosted bahahah    might wanna change that in an update guys!!


  • Michelle SmokerMichelle Smoker Member Posts: 8
    edited January 2018
    Hi, now when we print our invoices, the bottom of our invoice is being cut off and not printing, it seems now with the upgrade that everything has moved down the page, can this be fixed your end?

  • John GraetzJohn Graetz Member Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2018

    Hi Michelle.  Have a look at my post some four hours or so ago (the second one, not the first one).  There you will find details of a fix that I found.  There is another alternative, but similar one via a slightly different route.  Follow this:

    1.  Go to File> Printer Setup, then select the form that you are having problems with (Tax Invoice - bottom of the list)

    2.  You will then see the greyed out Reckon Printer (re-directed 94) on T5003.  Against this there is an Options button.  Click on this.

    3.  The next page will have the "traditional" type printer options.  Select the Paper/Finishing tab along the top.  Then change the paper size to A4 instead of Letter size. Then hit the Save button (near bottom on right hand side.  You will then be given an option to name your Custom Setting which will appear in the box above.

    What I don't know at this stage is how long the setting stays in place, but you can easily select your Custom Setting again (if it changes back to Letter Size) by going back to that box in the Printer Settings under Options.  I have found that when I change the paper size, my Template returns to what it used to be, in other words it is now set to A4 size instead of Letter Size, meaning that things should no longer run of the bottom of the page.

    John L G

  • Michelle SmokerMichelle Smoker Member Posts: 8
    edited January 2018
    Thank You John, lets hope the setting stays. 
  • Vanessa LanderVanessa Lander Member Posts: 29
    edited January 2018
    Hi Rav, seeing you are doing all these changes with printing and now is taking twice as long to print and save invoices and quotation by pressing the buttons twice can you add a SAVE button next to the print button?
  • John GraetzJohn Graetz Member Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭
    edited July 15

    Hi RAV.  After extensive testing, I can report the following issues to you, regarding printing something like an invoice, when using Internet Explorer

    1.  Whilst one can change the Reckon Printer options so that the page size changes from Letter to A4, and save it, this only remains operative whilst the current session is open.  Exit out of Hosted or get kicked out of Hosted and one has to go through the whole process once again.

    2.  On one's computer, whichever printer is set as the default, this becomes the only printer available to Hosted during the current session.

    3.  If one changes the computer's default printer whilst a Hosted session is open, one can send a test page to the changed printer when making the change, and it works.  However, Hosted has hijacked the original printer which was operative at the time the session opened, and no amount of trying, will allow another default printer to be accessed by Hosted, during that same session.

    4.  CTRL P brings up a dialogue box which allows printing to any of the system's printer, but, all that this does is to do a screen shot rather a print of the invoice.  This was the same before the upgrade, so there is no change here.

    The tests were done on a Windows 10 machine with 16GB of RAM and using Internet Explorer as the browser of choice.

    But wait, there is more and finally some GOOD NEWS.  I decided to try Google Chrome to see what the story was there and, lo and behold, most of the same issues are no longer issues within Chrome.  Pressing the print button acts the same as in IE, but, this time around there is finally a printer dialogue box which allows one to select whatever printer is available, including my own PDF program (in this case Microsoft Print to PDF).  The only issue which still remains, from what I can see, is that changing the printer properties to select A4 instead of Letter, still only remains operative during the current session.  However, as that is easy to fix, I might finally be able to go back to Chrome again.  The only lingering other issue is the fact that some desktop version shortcuts still revert to Windows shortcuts when using Chrome, but I might be happy to live with that, if everything else works OK.

    John L G

  • LaurenLauren Member Posts: 3
    edited January 2018
    In addition, when the first print screen pops up, if you change the number of copies to say 2, when the next print screen pops up it will only print 1 copy, so you have to change it again. 
    If you always want to print 2 copies, you have to change it every time
  • Kevin LoweKevin Lowe Member Posts: 1
    edited July 15
    The default settings to Letter on all forms , requires the format changing to A4 every time you log in to the system. The save button doesn't work. If you work on sales orders , go to print settings change the setting to A4 . Work on invoices go to Print settings change to A4 , Oh do a purchase order go to print settings change to A4. Log out , log in do it all again. Custom settings settings do not save .
    I think a fix is in order!
  • John GraetzJohn Graetz Member Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Sure is frustrating Kevin and, more to the point, why have they imposed a default of Letter size in the first place when more than likely almost everybody is using A4?.
    John L G
  • RavRav Administrator Posts: 10,871 Administrator
    edited January 2018
    Thank you John,
    I've just spoken to and provided your notes to the Hosted dev team. They're currently investigating the paper size aspect right now.
  • John GraetzJohn Graetz Member Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Excellent - thanks very much Rav.  That sounds like "light on the horizon" to me.
    John L G
  • Jean RodeJean Rode Member Posts: 2
    edited January 2018
    It was a genuine question John, I couldn't figure it out at the time hence why I asked. I'm not as computer savvy as most but have since realised I can save to PDF by changing the printer location. 
  • John GraetzJohn Graetz Member Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    It was a good question at the time Jean, but a lot has happened since the Wednesday release.
    John L G
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