Hello ! can anybody tell me should the gross payments include the salary sacrifice amount on PAYG summary ?

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the ATO said don't include reportable employer super in gross payments, but my PAYG in reckon shows the total gross payments including the Salary sacrifice component. Why?
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Kerry Riches

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No the grossed up figure is reported seperately.
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Kevin Russell, Accredited Partner

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I includes it because ypu classified ir as gross wages in the setup
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Nicky Wray

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On a payment summary for one employee, Payroll Premier arbitrarily took one car allce payment out of allces and added it to gross. Everything for the year was correct until the payment summary. When I checked an allowance report for the year by date, it showed the one pay week that it left off but in actual fact the pay at the time was correct. I have another issue with a terminated employee payment summary showing 5000 more in gross on payment summary and extra tax than in the pays report for the year. How can I see the individual pays in the reconciliation report
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John G, Information Support Analyst

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Hi Nicky,

Was the INB Pay Summary amounts for the employee with the incorrect ETP Payment Summary correct or incorrect?

How do the amounts compare to the Reconciliation Report?

You can view individual pays by right-clicking the employee on the Employees List and selecting Show Employee Pays.

Hope this helps.


regards,
John 
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Nicky Wray

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The amount on the payment summary in gross is higher in two terminated employees than is shown on the reconciliation report. The recon report agrees with what has actually been paid. I have checked the "show employee pays" and it doesn't agree with the payment summary gross or the tax on two terminated employees. 
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Hi John, further to my comments above, what I would really like to do is drill down on the amount in gross on the payment summary and see where it got its figures from. I have done an audit report and it seems like the system got itself in a knot when there was a termination using the "wizard" and trying to do a final pay and termination at the same time (which it says you can do but it doesn't work). I was only working here for one of the problem terminations but I can see in the audit report that the first one had to be deleted, reinstate the employee and start again - same as I had to do for the second one. I think that is where the issue lies but I can't see anyway of fixing it
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Thanks Nicky,

Were any of the terminations the "first" or "last" pays of the financial year?  If so they may be "tripped up" by the Print By setting in payroll Premier.  The Report for Payment Summaries differs from the Empdupe because the Report correctly reports on a Date Paid basis, while the EmpDupe and general reports like the Reconciliation Report, use the Print by Preference, which by default is set to Pay End Date.

See kb3656 for full instructions.
Briefly: Change the Printing Preference > Print by > to Date Paid and then run the
Payment Summaries Report, The Reconciliation Report and the Empdupe File.
(Care: changing the print by setting re-indexes the file. If large it will take a long time (more than an hour). If you try to stop the process (it shows Not Responding), there is a high risk that the file
will be corrupted. Will be worth making a backup before changing the preference.)

When terminating employees its always best to process normal pay component for the employee first and then the Termination component as a separate pay next.  To correct an existing pay, delete the termination pay and re-instate the employee ("Accidental Termination") and terminate again.  

You can only drill down on the Payment Summary figures through the relevant Reports.  


regards,
John.
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Nicky Wray

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Hi John, I realise I can't drill down on the payment summaries, it's just a wish list.  The procedures mentioned about re-instatement of the terminated employee were followed but I still think this is where the problem lies. The two terminations were in Sep and Dec so not here the year end. although I am at a loss to understand why one report uses date paid and others default to pay end. Why not just use date paid?
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Nicky Wray

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Does payroll premier not allow you to send the empdupe file electronically via the ATO portal? Is it old school where you physically send a dvd or similar through the mail? I have been using Quickbooks Enterprise for several years and it has been electronic for quite a while.
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Hi Nicky,

Payroll Premier does create the EmpDupe export file (Activities > Export) which you can upload to the ATO via the portal.  

[Reckon Accounts Hosted allows you to submit the Empdupe directly from the software through SBR (Reckon GovConnect).  That functionality will eventually be introduced to Reckon One. ] 

By default Payroll Premier is set to report by pay periods (Pay End Date), but the user has a choice to change the preference.  The ATO however deems salary and wages earned on the day it was paid (Date Paid).  Some reports have been configured for Date Paid directly, but export functions remain controlled by the Print preferences.  Comparing some end of year reports will be an issue if the Print by preference is not adjusted for the comparison need.

I hope this provides some explanation.


regards,
John.
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Nicky Wray

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Thank you, I will look into the "export" activity