Changing from Reckon Accounts Desktop to Hosted

Theresa Waters
Theresa Waters Member Posts: 37 Reckoner Reckoner
edited August 17 in Reckon Accounts (Desktop)
Hi. 

We are needing to create a New Data File as our Current Data File is becoming too large and we would like to do this for the new FY.

We are considering changing from Reckon Accounts Enterprise Desktop to Reckon Accounts Hosted and would like any input for the following, if you wish to share:
  • If we pay for 5 Licences - can we have maybe 7 users / logins but understand that only 5 users can use the Data File at one time
  • Is there a limit to the storage - if after a certain size will we need to pay additional costs etc.
  • If we decide to go with a different provider in a few years and stop paying for our subscription, are we able to still access our data
  • Most of the computers we use are Windows 7. I know that you use the Internet but is anyone having difficulties with Accounts Hosted using this Windows Operating Software
  • Can you make a local backup of the File 
Thank you 

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  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,228 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner
    edited June 2020
    Thanks for your questions.

    1. You can have as many USER ID as you like but only five concurrent users. Of course you can pay for as many as you like

    2. There is no upper limit to storage but of course the larger the file the more likely it is that data corruption will creep into the file. I recommend making a portable file and then restoring it to remove all the empty space in the file first. This will give a you a better indication of what you are dealing with. 

    3. Nope.

    4. I use XP, Win 7, Win 8 and Win 10 without problem

    5. You SHOULD make a local backup of the file regularly. At least every single day. 

    Call me if you wish to discuss

    Kevin V Russell 0407744914
  • Linda ABC
    Linda ABC Accredited Partner Posts: 1,097 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner
    edited July 2020
    Hi Theresa - here is my take on your questions:
    • If we pay for 5 Licences - can we have maybe 7 users / logins but understand that only 5 users can use the Data File at one time - **you can have as many concurrent users as you have paid Hosted ID's - so if you only ever require 5 people connected at once - you pay for 5 Hosted ID's but you can have as many people/staff as you like with those ID details so that they can log in from any internet connected computer to access your datafile.
    • Is there a limit to the storage - if after a certain size will we need to pay additional costs etc. **so far Reckon have not limited any of the storage and allow users to use their Q & B drives on Hosted for storing backups, uploaded files, exported data, ABA & STP files and the like
    • If we decide to go with a different provider in a few years and stop paying for our subscription, are we able to still access our data  **part of your hosted subscription includes the ability to install Desktop Enterprise on one machine for each Hosted ID you have paid for - so if you were to change providers - you can install Enterprise on a desktop PC and restore a backup of your file and retain view access to your old data even after your subscription expires
    • Most of the computers we use are Windows 7. I know that you use the Internet but is anyone having difficulties with Accounts Hosted using this Windows Operating Software  **both myself and many of my clients are still running Reckon Accounts Hosted on Windows 7 computers - no trouble at all
    • Can you make a local backup of the File **as suggested by Kevin -yes, you should backup your file regularly - to answer your question - yes, you can backup to your Hosted B drive - then download these files to your local computer.
    Hope this helps to clarify your options a bit further.  :)
  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,228 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner
    edited June 2020
    I can't believe you are still using Win 7  Linda. I only have this one old laptop here and I keep it for testing purposes only. Is there any reason why you haven't upgraded to 10? 
  • Linda ABC
    Linda ABC Accredited Partner Posts: 1,097 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner
    edited August 2020
    Too many reasons to list!!! not least of which is - "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"  !!
  • John Graetz
    John Graetz Member Posts: 1,446 Reckon Hall of Famer Reckon Hall of Famer
    edited June 2020
    Just a comment on the storage aspect.  There does not necessarily seem to be a good reason for keeping too many backups on the B drive as they should be downloaded to your local drive daily as stated by both Kevin and Linda.  I have the oldest ones automatically delete after 3 backups are held.  If you don't delete these backups, eventually Reckon will come knocking because of the space being taken up.
    John L G
  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,228 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner
    edited June 2020
    Certainly agree John. The backups should be stored offline
  • Theresa Waters
    Theresa Waters Member Posts: 37 Reckoner Reckoner
    edited August 2020
    Thank you to you all. We have decided to go with Reckon Accounts Hosted 
  • Louise A
    Louise A Member Posts: 3 Novice Member Novice Member
    edited August 2020
    How did it work out for you?  We briefly went to hosted a few years ago but changed back within a day as backups took hours and our internet was not stable so we kept getting kicked off if the internet connection blinked.  We're looking at hosted again due to Covid lockdown levels and wondered if we should give it another try.
  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,228 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner
    edited August 2020
    Lou dont do it unless there is a COMPELLING reason.
  • Louise A
    Louise A Member Posts: 3 Novice Member Novice Member
    edited August 2020
    oh no, I was hoping it would have improved by now. 

  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,228 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner
    edited August 2020
    The environment hasn't changed. Its only a temporary solution while they get Reckon One finished.
  • GerryWinter
    GerryWinter Accredited Partner Posts: 1,536 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner
    edited August 2020
    There is nothing wrong with hosted and would be my preference any time, it all depends on your internet connection and speed.

    Gerry id 6376

    Gerhard Winter

    Ph. 0418907140

    Reckon Store Next Door

    "Always at your Service"

    Email: gwinter0808@gmail.com

  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,228 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner
    edited August 2020
    Very amusing Gerry. Thanks to the Muppet Liberals, 80% of the country has rubbish internet. Have you tried using satellite? PUH LEASE
  • Allan Noffke
    Allan Noffke Member Posts: 3 Novice Member Novice Member
    edited August 2020
    I agree with Gerry Winter, that there is nothing wrong with hosted and does depend on internet speed. I have been a partner with Reckon for years and worked in an Accountants office which now gives me the experience of Accountancy and that gives me some different idea on what is wanted in business to comply with ATO requirements. BUT, I do say,
     there should be better back up HELP. 
  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,228 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner
    edited August 2020
    Allan I I agree with me. Have you ever tried to ring Zero? Good luck with that. Hosted has its place but most definitely not as an alternative to desktop. You need to consider what problem it is you are trying to fix. If you don't have a problem, Hosted will not help.
  • Allan Noffke
    Allan Noffke Member Posts: 3 Novice Member Novice Member
    edited August 2020
    No Kevin, I have never rang Zero. They are nearly the same with no back up to help in any form. Remember, they are in it to MAKE MONEY! Why worry after they have sold you a product? Accountancy knowledge is so valuable in any problem as there is a certain amount of creativeness!!!!! LOL. ?
  • Kris_Williams
    Kris_Williams Member Posts: 4,201 Reckon Hall of Famer Reckon Hall of Famer
    edited August 2020
    Fortunately I have NBN but had no problems with ADSL either. I am in Sydney too which may help. I access Hosted easily from PC using mainly Firefox browser but also from iPad using Safari
  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,228 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner
    edited August 2020
    Well I get access from my desktop and experience is VERY good but I have a very fast HFC link which is rock solid. The uptime exceeds 99.95%. If you live in Brisbane the internet is rubbish unless you have fibre. And as discussed for great swathes of the country the internet is pretty bad. And getting worse.
  • Theresa Waters
    Theresa Waters Member Posts: 37 Reckoner Reckoner
    edited August 2020
    Our Internet is not wonderful! Remote NSW. We are liking Hosted but yes slow due to our Internet connection. We were having a lot of issues with Desktop so can see an improvement.
  • GerryWinter
    GerryWinter Accredited Partner Posts: 1,536 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner
    edited August 2020
    Can i ask what probles were you having with desktop.
    Gerry

    Gerry id 6376

    Gerhard Winter

    Ph. 0418907140

    Reckon Store Next Door

    "Always at your Service"

    Email: gwinter0808@gmail.com

  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,228 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner
    edited August 2020
    Therese as I mentioned you need to be really clear about what problem it is you are trying to fix before changing systems. You cant move back easily. Call me if you wish to discuss Kevin 0407744914
  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,228 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner
    edited August 2020
    And the internet is pretty rubbish all over Australia. My mum lives 5k out of Geelong and can't get broadband at all. My internet here in Geelong is first class.
  • Theresa Waters
    Theresa Waters Member Posts: 37 Reckoner Reckoner
    edited August 2020
    The main issue was that we have a Multi-user Software Installed on our Server but some users were not able to use Data File if other Users were not logged in. We had tried to fix it over the years and have checked all Trouble Shooting but were not able to fix the issue.
  • GerryWinter
    GerryWinter Accredited Partner Posts: 1,536 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner
    edited August 2020
    I would like to help you, no promises but nothing lost.
    Call me Gerry 0418907140

    Gerry id 6376

    Gerhard Winter

    Ph. 0418907140

    Reckon Store Next Door

    "Always at your Service"

    Email: gwinter0808@gmail.com

  • Theresa Waters
    Theresa Waters Member Posts: 37 Reckoner Reckoner
    edited August 2020
    Hi Gerry. Thank you but we have already moved over to Hosted and is working well (just slow at times)
  • GerryWinter
    GerryWinter Accredited Partner Posts: 1,536 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner
    edited August 2020
    Great to hear and if you need a hand just call.

    Gerry id 6376

    Gerhard Winter

    Ph. 0418907140

    Reckon Store Next Door

    "Always at your Service"

    Email: gwinter0808@gmail.com

  • Theresa Waters
    Theresa Waters Member Posts: 37 Reckoner Reckoner
    edited August 2020
    Will do. Thank you 
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