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kaylittle
kaylittle Member Posts: 9 Reckoner Reckoner

Super is not appearing on the payment summary. Obviously something in setup. Can someone tell my how to fix it please.

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  • Rav
    Rav Administrator, Reckon Staff Posts: 14,681 Reckon Community Manager Community Manager

    Hi @kaylittle

    You've created this post in the Reckon Accounts Hosted category, can I just confirm that is the software you're using?

  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,402 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner

    1. There is no such thing as a payment summary

    2. Super - unless it is tagged RESC - shouldn't be on it anyway.

    3. Call me if this is unclear

    Kevin 0407744914

  • Kris_Williams
    Kris_Williams Member Posts: 4,203 Reckon Hall of Famer Reckon Hall of Famer

    I still use the Payment Summary to make sure things like allowances and RESC figures are correct. In case you’re not aware RESC is salary sacrifice and as Zappy said is the only super that gets shown on the payment summary and of the EOFY STP submission.

  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,402 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner

    Why don't you use the earnings report? That's what it's for.

  • Kris_Williams
    Kris_Williams Member Posts: 4,203 Reckon Hall of Famer Reckon Hall of Famer

    I use a number of reports, but I like the familiarity of Payment Summaries, and won’t be able to use them from next year I believe. Doesn’t really matter which one to use a long as they all give the same, correct information I’m after

  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,402 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner

    Why aren't you using the STP finalisation? That's its job.

  • Kris_Williams
    Kris_Williams Member Posts: 4,203 Reckon Hall of Famer Reckon Hall of Famer

    If you’re asking me Kevin, I do use the EOFY process of course

  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,402 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner

    Nice one Kris. So no need for payment summaries.

  • Kris_Williams
    Kris_Williams Member Posts: 4,203 Reckon Hall of Famer Reckon Hall of Famer

    Nope but there’s nothing wrong with looking at them

  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,402 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner

    Yeah except you know, time wasting.

  • Kris_Williams
    Kris_Williams Member Posts: 4,203 Reckon Hall of Famer Reckon Hall of Famer

    Got plenty of that, in lockdown. Actually if you read Kaylittle’ s question it was in regard to Payment Summaries, I was just answering her question, not judging her

  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,402 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner

    Yes and I was merely pointing out, payment summaries are not required and they aren't particularly useful when all the information is available in STP. We should be in the business of recommending the most efficient method of getting the job done, not creating more work. I don't know about you but there's only 1440 minutes in a day and I need all of em.

  • Kris_Williams
    Kris_Williams Member Posts: 4,203 Reckon Hall of Famer Reckon Hall of Famer

    Nah I don’t! …………...

  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,402 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner

    Four cable TV services soon to be five will do that;)

  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,402 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner

    Oops I lied. I have five, soon to be six.

  • Acctd4
    Acctd4 Accredited Partner Posts: 4,138 Reckon Accounts Hosted Elite Expert Reckon Accounts Hosted Expert

    I still like to reconcile against Payment Summaries pre-STP Finalisation. These allow for checking/fixing any STP mapping issues!

    We are in the business of ensuring accuracy & compliance Kevin & - until we have a mapping report available - when I’ve not been the person who’s actually set up the STP, the Payment Summaries are very useful.

    Shaz Hughes Dip(Fin) ACQ NSW, MICB

    *** Reckon Accredited Partner (AP) Bookkeeper - specialising EXCLUSIVELY in Reckon Accounts / Hosted ! *** Bookkeeping & 1-on-1 customised software Training/Troubleshooting ***

    * Regd BAS Agent (No: 92314 015)* ICB-Certified Bookkeeper* Snr Seasonal Tax Consultant since 2003 *

    Accounted 4 Bookkeeping Services

    Ballajura, WA

    shaz@accounted4.com.au

    https://accounted4.com.au

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  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,402 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner

    Shaz we obviously have different processes. What can I tell you. I wouldn't wait till the end of the year to ensure STP items are mapped correctly. Maybe I'm more strict about these things.

  • Kris_Williams
    Kris_Williams Member Posts: 4,203 Reckon Hall of Famer Reckon Hall of Famer

    I don’t wait till the end of the year either, usually check quarterly or if I make a major change to payroll

  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,402 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner

    So the payment summaries perform no function. Kind of where I started. Good to know.

  • Kris_Williams
    Kris_Williams Member Posts: 4,203 Reckon Hall of Famer Reckon Hall of Famer

    No they do, I create payment summaries throughout the year to check - mainly RESC figures

  • Acctd4
    Acctd4 Accredited Partner Posts: 4,138 Reckon Accounts Hosted Elite Expert Reckon Accounts Hosted Expert

    Personally I have specific modified reports that I run for every STP submission to ensure everything balances each lodgement but if I go to a client for EOFY & as I said, I’ve not been the one to set up their STP (or been processing it!) cross-referencing via the Payment Summaries ensures all figures are going to the correct labels.

    Shaz Hughes Dip(Fin) ACQ NSW, MICB

    *** Reckon Accredited Partner (AP) Bookkeeper - specialising EXCLUSIVELY in Reckon Accounts / Hosted ! *** Bookkeeping & 1-on-1 customised software Training/Troubleshooting ***

    * Regd BAS Agent (No: 92314 015)* ICB-Certified Bookkeeper* Snr Seasonal Tax Consultant since 2003 *

    Accounted 4 Bookkeeping Services

    Ballajura, WA

    shaz@accounted4.com.au

    https://accounted4.com.au

    (NB: Please give my post a Like or mark as Accepted Answer if I have been able to resolve your query as this helps others when seeking solutions!)
  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,402 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner

    Personally, it isnt necessary.

  • Kris_Williams
    Kris_Williams Member Posts: 4,203 Reckon Hall of Famer Reckon Hall of Famer

    Perhaps not necessary, just a personal choice

  • swakhlu01 .
    swakhlu01 . Member Posts: 396 Reckon Star Reckon Star

    wonder all this actually helped the user who raised this query in the first place.

  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,402 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner

    Do you? Really?

    Kr+61407744914

  • kaylittle
    kaylittle Member Posts: 9 Reckoner Reckoner

    So regardless of everything else others do. My question was answered I think. The payment summary does not show the super paid even though there is a space for it on the payment summary. So if the employee wants a payment summary they get one without the super showing even though it appears on their pay slip.

  • Kris_Williams
    Kris_Williams Member Posts: 4,203 Reckon Hall of Famer Reckon Hall of Famer

    that Is correct. The space you are referring to is only for RESC - salary sacrifice super not super guarantee.

  • kaylittle
    kaylittle Member Posts: 9 Reckoner Reckoner

    Thank you. Such clarity Kris. Appreciated.

  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,402 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner
    edited July 2021

    Kay the simplest answer is super doesnt appear on the payment summary. Unless it is RESC, employee salary sacrifice. And payment summaries still arent necessary. Who knew it was so simple? Have a nice Saturday.

  • kaylittle
    kaylittle Member Posts: 9 Reckoner Reckoner

    Thank you Zappy. First time with employees. I have done bookkeeping for many years but when I saw this I obviously had no idea.

  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,402 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner

    Are you qualified? I would seriously suggest undertaking the Cert IV in Bookkeeping. If you are wrong about this, what other mistakes are you making? Payroll isn't easy. And errors can be costly.

  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,402 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner

    Funny I thought you must have been like seventy years old. Back in the sixties super was on the payment summaries. Oh well.

  • kaylittle
    kaylittle Member Posts: 9 Reckoner Reckoner

    I have a diploma in bookkeeping but many years ago. Things change all the time. I am 70 yo. I don't do much anymore just for my brother and son.

  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,402 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner

    You know if you are doing BAS work it's a legal requirement to have a CERT IV. And you need to do CPD.

  • Bruce
    Bruce Member Posts: 445 Professional Partner Professional Partner

    @kaylittle starting point to learn about legal requirements is https://www.tpb.gov.au/bas-agents

  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,402 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner

    Spot on Bruce

    Kr +61407744914

  • Acctd4
    Acctd4 Accredited Partner Posts: 4,138 Reckon Accounts Hosted Elite Expert Reckon Accounts Hosted Expert
    edited July 2021

    Just to clarify further … Having the Cert IV alone isn’t sufficient - The requirement is actually to be a Registered BAS Agent, the Cert IV just forms part of the eligibility for that.

    However, ANYONE can do BAS work, you just can’t charge a FEE to do it without being a BAS Agent. If @kaylittle is only doing work for her brother & son for free, there’s no (legal) issue with that ☺️

    Shaz Hughes Dip(Fin) ACQ NSW, MICB

    *** Reckon Accredited Partner (AP) Bookkeeper - specialising EXCLUSIVELY in Reckon Accounts / Hosted ! *** Bookkeeping & 1-on-1 customised software Training/Troubleshooting ***

    * Regd BAS Agent (No: 92314 015)* ICB-Certified Bookkeeper* Snr Seasonal Tax Consultant since 2003 *

    Accounted 4 Bookkeeping Services

    Ballajura, WA

    shaz@accounted4.com.au

    https://accounted4.com.au

    (NB: Please give my post a Like or mark as Accepted Answer if I have been able to resolve your query as this helps others when seeking solutions!)
  • Zappy
    Zappy Accredited Partner Posts: 5,402 Accredited Partner Accredited Partner

    Just to clarify I think the point is you need to have a certain skill level to do the work. You cant just wing it and hope to get it right.

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