Separating Casual Loading from Base Rate

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edited May 2019 in Accounts Hosted
Due to recent developments in regards to Casual Employees, we are looking to report the Casual loading as a separate payroll item.

This should then reflect as:
Base rate (for Normal time Hours) at X hours
Casual Loading (25% of base rate) at X hours

I have created the Casual loading as a Overtime type, which then adds the normal hours and Casual loading together when calculating total hours.

How do I exclude the Casual loading from being calculated as additional hours worked?
Please note, this is not related to total hours worked calculated for accumulating leave.

Willem Oosthuizen

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  • Carolyn_9716443
    Carolyn_9716443 Member Posts: 18 Reckoner Reckoner
    edited May 2019
    I have the same query Willem. Did you ever received a response?
  • glendaveale
    glendaveale Member Posts: 176 Reckoner Reckoner
    edited January 2019
    I don't think there is a way around it if you are using multiple ordinary hours eg normal, time & half, double time etc.
    I have to just divide the hours in half to check my entry.
  • Karla
    Karla Member Posts: 8 Reckoner Reckoner

    I have the same question.

    I have also set up Casual Loading as an overtime type payroll item and the Casual Loading hours are being added to the Normal hours making the total worked hours wrong.

    Can someone please confirm if there is a better way to set up Casual Loading?

  • Acctd4
    Acctd4 Accredited Partner Posts: 3,754 Reckon Accounts Hosted Elite Expert Reckon Accounts Hosted Expert

    Unfortunately, if you want to use separate Payroll Item, this is how it displays 😕

    However, as per Fair Work (see screenshot below from FW's website), compliance can still be achieved by including an additional note - either as separate text on a customised payslip or by editing the Payroll Item name - to indicate casual loading inclusion:


    Shaz Hughes Dip(Fin) ACQ NSW, MICB

    *** Reckon Accredited Partner (AP) Bookkeeper - specialising EXCLUSIVELY in Reckon Accounts / Hosted ! ***

    * Regd BAS Agent (No: 92314 015)* ICB-Certified Bookkeeper* Snr Seasonal Tax Consultant since 2003 *

    Accounted 4 Bookkeeping Services

    Ballajura, WA

    shaz@accounted4.com.au

    https://accounted4.com.au

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  • Karla
    Karla Member Posts: 8 Reckoner Reckoner

    Thank you for your response Shaz.

    Just to be clear, if we decide to use a separate Payroll Item for the Casual Loading there are no other repercussions other than the Total Worked hours displaying a wrong amount?

    This is not really about Fair Work compliance, we would just prefer to display the base rate separate to the casual loading on the pay slips.

    Thank you!

  • Acctd4
    Acctd4 Accredited Partner Posts: 3,754 Reckon Accounts Hosted Elite Expert Reckon Accounts Hosted Expert

    No 😀 Provided you ensure it's configured correctly to not accrue any leave, it will only affect the total hours quantity displayed. Personally, I don't like having the hours incorrectly displayed but there are a number of large organisations whose payroll is set up this way.

    Shaz Hughes Dip(Fin) ACQ NSW, MICB

    *** Reckon Accredited Partner (AP) Bookkeeper - specialising EXCLUSIVELY in Reckon Accounts / Hosted ! ***

    * Regd BAS Agent (No: 92314 015)* ICB-Certified Bookkeeper* Snr Seasonal Tax Consultant since 2003 *

    Accounted 4 Bookkeeping Services

    Ballajura, WA

    shaz@accounted4.com.au

    https://accounted4.com.au

    (NB: Please give my post a Like or mark as Accepted Answer if I have been able to resolve your query as this helps others when seeking solutions!)
  • Kris_Williams
    Kris_Williams Member Posts: 3,628 Reckon Accounts Hosted Elite Expert Reckon Accounts Hosted Expert

    I use this same process and yes total hours worked are broken down by 6 hours normal 3 hours sat loading and 3 hours Sunday loading,

  • Karla
    Karla Member Posts: 8 Reckoner Reckoner

    Got it!

    Thanks again for your help. I really appreciate you taking the time to explain this to me.

  • Toni_9526396
    Toni_9526396 Member Posts: 3 Reckoner Reckoner

    I have experimented with setting it up the same way as the Leave loading but at the 25% rate instead of 17.5%. That seems to work correctly and lists the standard base rate plus the casual loading on the pay slip. Just need to change the GL code its applying to and I ticked the "Calculate this item based on hours" box when setting it up.

    1. New payroll Item
    2. Addition
    3. Name e.g. casual loading in lieu of leave entitlements 25%
    4. Expense account
    5. Tax tracking type Gross payments
    6. Taxes - payroll & state (depending on your business type)
    7. Calculate this item based on hours
    8. Default rate 25%
    9. Inclusions - Tick super
    10. Finish

    Hope this helps