Salary Sacrifice included in Gross Payments on Payment Summary

LornaBock
LornaBock Member Posts: 11 Novice Member Novice Member
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I am reconciling payroll for a Client and believe that Salary Sacrifice amounts should not be included in the Gross Payments section and only show under RESC Amount on the Payment Summary. These have all been updated for STP-2 to the Tax tracking Type Salary Sacrifice Super (S). I had to change them back to Gross Payments to have the Payment Summary & STP Finalization to show the correct amounts. Any comment would be appreciated. Thanks

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  • Acctd4
    Acctd4 Accredited Partner Posts: 3,790 Reckon Accounts Hosted Elite Expert Reckon Accounts Hosted Expert
    edited July 2023

    Hi @LornaBock

    The integrated Payroll Summaries generated from the software are no longer able to be used with STP2 as they are not able to report the disaggregation (so will be omitting any gross payments mapped to the new categories)

    In the original STP, the Adjusted Gross (eg less the RESC amount) was shown at Gross Payments. However, in STP2, the TOTAL Gross is shown (including the RESC amount) along with all the breakdown categories incl RESC, identified in their own separate columns.

    NOTE: Where an amount is SS & also classed as RESC, you will now see the amount displayed under BOTH columns in STP2 (This is not a duplication, it's just a display thing 😊)

    Shaz Hughes Dip(Fin) ACQ NSW, MICB

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  • LornaBock
    LornaBock Member Posts: 11 Novice Member Novice Member

    Thanks Shaz,

    I was just checking the Payment Summaries as, in prior years, not all of the Salary Sacrifice amounts were reported if a pay cheque had been edited.

    Will this affect what I have uploaded for STP Finalization?

  • Acctd4
    Acctd4 Accredited Partner Posts: 3,790 Reckon Accounts Hosted Elite Expert Reckon Accounts Hosted Expert

    This isn't specifically STP-related, it's a known glitch that can cause the RESC not to reflect as RESC but just as ordinary Super (& therefore not show up)

    To determine this, you should check the Super Report by Employee & add in the RESC column:

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    On pays where you identify this has occurred, you can fix it by Unlocking them, deleting the RESC line & re-adding it then re-saving the Paycheque to refresh/update it 😊

    Shaz Hughes Dip(Fin) ACQ NSW, MICB

    *** Reckon Accredited Partner (AP) Bookkeeper - specialising EXCLUSIVELY in Reckon Accounts / Hosted ! ***

    * Regd BAS Agent (No: 92314 015)* ICB-Certified Bookkeeper* Snr Seasonal Tax Consultant since 2003 *

    Accounted 4 Bookkeeping Services

    Ballajura, WA

    shaz@accounted4.com.au

    https://accounted4.com.au

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  • drm161
    drm161 Member Posts: 3 Novice Member Novice Member

    Hi Shaz...

    I've tried this and unfortunately it has not resolved the issue I am experiencing. When I generate the Super report by employee the superannuation is showing correctly... It is not a salary sacrifice but employer additional contribution so I'm not certain if that might effect what's going on...


    Any other ideas appreciated.

    Thx again

    David

  • drm161
    drm161 Member Posts: 3 Novice Member Novice Member

    Shaz..

    I tried again and I don't know what I did differently .. but this time I identified it had not registered the previous pay amount ... even though it had previously lodged that in an STP upload... I had to update that and then this time when I submit the new pay file it has the YTD figures correct...

    Thx

  • Acctd4
    Acctd4 Accredited Partner Posts: 3,790 Reckon Accounts Hosted Elite Expert Reckon Accounts Hosted Expert

    Hi David

    The Super Report by Employee shows each Super line from Paycheques dated in the selected period, totalled by Employee.

    Just like Salary Sacrifice ("SS"), Employer Additional ("EA") Super is still considered RESC & therefore will also show on this report in the RESC column:

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    The above shows January but you can identify the glitch reflecting in this sample file for October here:

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    This report shows you exactly which Paycheque(s) this glitch has occurred in. You can then drill down into each of them, Unlock the Net Pay, delete the EA line & re-add it, then save to refresh. When you check this report again, it should then be correctly displaying the EA amount in the RESC column.


    IMPORTANT: Take a screenshot or print the Paycheque BEFORE unlocking it so you can ensure no other figures inadvertently change during this process!

    Shaz Hughes Dip(Fin) ACQ NSW, MICB

    *** Reckon Accredited Partner (AP) Bookkeeper - specialising EXCLUSIVELY in Reckon Accounts / Hosted ! ***

    * Regd BAS Agent (No: 92314 015)* ICB-Certified Bookkeeper* Snr Seasonal Tax Consultant since 2003 *

    Accounted 4 Bookkeeping Services

    Ballajura, WA

    shaz@accounted4.com.au

    https://accounted4.com.au

    (NB: Please give my post a Like or mark as Accepted Answer if I have been able to resolve your query as this helps others when seeking solutions!)
  • Acctd4
    Acctd4 Accredited Partner Posts: 3,790 Reckon Accounts Hosted Elite Expert Reckon Accounts Hosted Expert

    Good to hear David! 👍️

    I recommend Memorising this report & checking the RESC amounts against this before each STP submission as you won't know when this has happened otherwise.

    I also strongly advise generating (& Memorising) the modified version of the Payroll Summary report (to cross-check your totals prior to your STP file export, then confirming the figures on here against the "Draft" status submission (before you "Submit" it) . You can see my previous advice on how to do this here:

    https://community.reckon.com/discussion/8033502/stp-reporting-errors

    I never lodge an STP file without checking these 2 things first & am yet to have a discrepancy thanks to this checking process

    Shaz Hughes Dip(Fin) ACQ NSW, MICB

    *** Reckon Accredited Partner (AP) Bookkeeper - specialising EXCLUSIVELY in Reckon Accounts / Hosted ! ***

    * Regd BAS Agent (No: 92314 015)* ICB-Certified Bookkeeper* Snr Seasonal Tax Consultant since 2003 *

    Accounted 4 Bookkeeping Services

    Ballajura, WA

    shaz@accounted4.com.au

    https://accounted4.com.au

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  • sminsure
    sminsure Member Posts: 2 Novice Member Novice Member
    edited July 2023

    Shaz (Acctd4 )

    Thank you so much for the report you recomended. I followed your exact method and it fixed the problem. I think my problem commenced when I updated the pay scales for first pay in 2023 2024 year. It actually changed details in a previous pay run. Runnng your report showed up the errors and editing pay cheques as you recomended fixed the problem. Can"t recomend your method highly enough and have memorised the report and willcheck each pay to save errors getting missed. This fixed my problem with Reportable Employer Superannuation Contributions Ie RESC in STP Phase 2. I always run a Gross wages year to date report each time a lodge a STP which is how I noticed the error, but needed help on how to fix it which your method provided.

  • Acctd4
    Acctd4 Accredited Partner Posts: 3,790 Reckon Accounts Hosted Elite Expert Reckon Accounts Hosted Expert

    That's great to hear! 👍️👍️

    Thank you for taking the time to post your positive feedback @sminsure 😊

    I also use another modified version of that Payroll Summary for the EOFY (Finalise Year) process that I keep in my Memorised Reports too:

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    This is exactly the same as the previous (per pay run) STP report but modified to Display columns by Employee instead:

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    You can then use this to check each employee's totals under the Details link on your uploaded Draft STP file (again, BEFORE you click "Submit")

    IMPORTANT: The original STP platform reflected my reports' Adjusted Gross Pay under the "Gross .." fields, in both your initial Process STP screen & in the exported submission itself on the portal. This has changed in STP2. You are now looking to match the Total Gross Pay from the reports with this field. Previously, any RESC/SS amounts were deducted & shown separately. They are all now INCLUDED in the "Gross ..." shown AND shown in their specific columns also. This is not a double-up, just a change in how it's displayed due to the new disaggregation ☺️

    Shaz Hughes Dip(Fin) ACQ NSW, MICB

    *** Reckon Accredited Partner (AP) Bookkeeper - specialising EXCLUSIVELY in Reckon Accounts / Hosted ! ***

    * Regd BAS Agent (No: 92314 015)* ICB-Certified Bookkeeper* Snr Seasonal Tax Consultant since 2003 *

    Accounted 4 Bookkeeping Services

    Ballajura, WA

    shaz@accounted4.com.au

    https://accounted4.com.au

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  • Rav
    Rav Administrator, Reckon Staff Posts: 16,515 Reckon Community Manager Community Manager

    @Acctd4 Love your work Shaz! 👏 🙌

  • Kathyd
    Kathyd Member Posts: 99 Reckoner Reckoner

    Hi

    After reading this , which is fantastic advice. I now notice the Sal Sac is not appearing under Sal Sac but under the RESC onlt. I do need to change something so it appears under Sal Sac?

  • sminsure
    sminsure Member Posts: 2 Novice Member Novice Member
    edited July 2023

    Thanks Shaz have saved it, and just worked out I can now display negatives in Red on my reports!!

  • Acctd4
    Acctd4 Accredited Partner Posts: 3,790 Reckon Accounts Hosted Elite Expert Reckon Accounts Hosted Expert
    edited July 2023

    Hi @Kathyd

    Yes, it sounds like your configuration for your SS Payroll Item needs tweaking. It should be specifically mapped as follows:

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    Shaz Hughes Dip(Fin) ACQ NSW, MICB

    *** Reckon Accredited Partner (AP) Bookkeeper - specialising EXCLUSIVELY in Reckon Accounts / Hosted ! ***

    * Regd BAS Agent (No: 92314 015)* ICB-Certified Bookkeeper* Snr Seasonal Tax Consultant since 2003 *

    Accounted 4 Bookkeeping Services

    Ballajura, WA

    shaz@accounted4.com.au

    https://accounted4.com.au

    (NB: Please give my post a Like or mark as Accepted Answer if I have been able to resolve your query as this helps others when seeking solutions!)
  • Kathyd
    Kathyd Member Posts: 99 Reckoner Reckoner

    will this figure increase the gross figure?

  • Acctd4
    Acctd4 Accredited Partner Posts: 3,790 Reckon Accounts Hosted Elite Expert Reckon Accounts Hosted Expert
    edited July 2023

    No … but in STP2, the “Gross pay” figure that’s displayed now reflects the FULL total with the amounts that are included also shown under their relevant categories ☺️

    NOTE: This is NOT a double-up, it’s simply a change to the display format.

    Shaz Hughes Dip(Fin) ACQ NSW, MICB

    *** Reckon Accredited Partner (AP) Bookkeeper - specialising EXCLUSIVELY in Reckon Accounts / Hosted ! ***

    * Regd BAS Agent (No: 92314 015)* ICB-Certified Bookkeeper* Snr Seasonal Tax Consultant since 2003 *

    Accounted 4 Bookkeeping Services

    Ballajura, WA

    shaz@accounted4.com.au

    https://accounted4.com.au

    (NB: Please give my post a Like or mark as Accepted Answer if I have been able to resolve your query as this helps others when seeking solutions!)

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