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WPN holder no STP

Karen E

I am a WPN holder who uses Reckon payroll to pay Private Disability Support workers in our home. The ATO say I do not need to use STP till 2033 and that has worked really well so far. The new payroll programme does not have INB or Eofy for me to process an Emdupe file. Is this still in the system, if so, where can I find it. I am not a business my son is NDIS covered so our funding is provided by NDIS to pay for supports. Can I still use this without STP.

Thanks Karen

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Rav

Hi @Karen E

I think I'll need a little bit more info on your specific case. Can I just clarify, have you sent any STP submissions at all for your WPN up to this point? Or since you've mentioned you have no requirement to do so, none have been sent?

I'm guessing its the latter, so following on from that, how were you performing your EOFY finalisations prior to the move to Reckon Payroll?

Karen E

Hi Rav

Not sure if my response went through via email, I have used Reckon One since 2019. Normally the end of financial year process the payroll had options to do payment summaries and then an Emdupe file would be there to save for submission to the ATO.

I am not sure if this option is still here for non registered

Rav

Ok thanks for that @Karen E

You're right in that the new Reckon Payroll doesn't contain the former Payment Summary/EMPDUPE functionality but let me get a bit more info around this from our product team.

In the meantime, I'm going to send through an access request to your book just in case the team need to take a closer look. It'll come through as a separate automated email, if you can please grant access when you have a sec that would be great.

I'll come back to you on this.

Karen E

Thanks Rav, I have just done the activation

Rav

Hi again @Karen E

The team have got back to me with an update and unfortunately, its not good news for your specific use case of the software I'm afraid ☹️

Since the new Reckon Payroll does not contain functionality to create the older payment summaries and/or create a Payment Summary Annual Report (EMPDUPE), there isn't a way to generate these now that you've moved to Reckon Payroll. I was looking to see if we could potentially bring back the older menu options for your book specifically but unfortunately that isn't possible as the code has been fully decommissioned.

So with that said, unfortunately I only have one suggestion when it comes to the software side of things and that would be to consider starting to use Single Touch Payroll to submit your pay run information to the ATO. It will also allow you to finalise the financial year. Let me know your thoughts on this.

Also, I'm not sure if this is realistic but perhaps it might be worth having a conversation with the ATO just to see if there are any concessions or options that they could potentially advise on when it comes to your specific case.

Karen E

Hi Rav

Thanks for that, yes it is unfortunate and it was the answer I knew, but hoped it wouldn't, would come back. I have come up with a solution to keep me staying the same. I did a payrun today and everything is good there.

I have done an exact copy template of the Payment Summary in my word doc. This will allow me to issue those. I will call the ATO but as WPN's have concession anyway and I spoke about this last year with them. So long as I have a file and summary documentation to send them as previously done it should be ok. I don't use Reckon facilities to its full extent of banking and lodging anything else, I pay all PAYG and other things via mygov.

If I have to concede and learn something new (old dog, new tricks comes to mind) then I will do that but I am confident it will be able to submit ATO as previously.

I thank you for your assistance with this, it is very much appreciated.

VinceB

I also suffer the same issue and also pay disability support workers with a WPN. I have had to resort to filling in PAYG payment summary forms and mailing them in. If Karen is still about I would love to know what and where she sends Payment Summary info. Good luck trying to talk to someone in ATO! From community comments this issue has been flagged many years ago. Where does change required come from ATO or reckon. I'm paying for Payroll but not getting full functionality